Ep. 208 features Nathan Thomas and Brett DeBari, the founding team behind GridGorilla, a digital platform that evolves the classic Super Bowl squares format into a year-round, player-stat-based prediction experience.
Hear them discuss:
- Brett’s journey through tech sales at Dell and AWS to previous gaming startups, and Nathan’s 20-year engineering career ranging from biomedical startups to database architecture
- How the team identified the "mass market" appeal of Super Bowl squares and adapted it into a year-round digital product
- Moving beyond final scores to create player-performance grids involving stats like points and rebounds across an x and y axis
- Why they opted for a free-to-play, ad-supported model to lower barriers to entry and onboard non-bettors.
- Leveraging AI-simulated matchups (e.g., LeBron James vs. the '86 Pistons) to keep users in the app for multiple sessions per day
- Nathan’s experience navigating the complex, one-year process of securing a software patent for their predictive grid system
- Why the three-person team chose to remain self-funded and the "leap of faith" required to build the company without meeting in person
- How Nathan operates as a one-person dev team by leveraging tools like Cursor AI, Flutter, and Golang to write nearly 97% of the app's code
- Seeing success with Meta ads under a $2 CAC and partnering with influencers and brand ambassadors to scale to 10,000 users
- Future plans for pay-to-play mechanics and a B2B licensing play to offer embeddable grid widgets for other brands and apps
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Learn more 👇
➡️ GridGorilla website
➡️ Nathan Thomas on Linkedin
➡️ Brett Debari on Linkedin